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February 27, 2008

Majorly Analyzing the Minor Characters in *The Sun Also Rises*


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27 February 2008

Hello Students,

I was very impressed with your comments on Hughes's "On the Road," in the last blog entry, and with your engagement with the text of Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises in our last meeting. As with the meeting before last, several of you stayed after class to discuss your experiences with the work. Even though I may seem to be in a hurry at times, I do appreciate those remarks and I am always happy to see someone "turned on" to a piece of literature they've never encountered before.

To recap what we did in our meeting and your current assignment . . .

. . .We began with a writing prompt. Slowly, we have been discussing the concept of “theme” in American literature. Theme is not the same as subject. Subject is the topic. The theme of a fable is its moral. The theme of a parable is its teaching. The theme of a piece of fiction is its view about life and how people behave. For example, “questioning tradition,” or “prioritizing loyalties” might be themes. A good way to find a theme is to identify repeating patterns, symbols, and allusions. In our last meeting, for example, we looked at the themes of coldness, “otherness” or outside-ness, doorways, and hypocrisy in Hughes’s “On the Road.”

In our writing prompt, I asked you to explore any themes you may have discovered in Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises (1926)? There were no one “right” or “wrong” answer. A narrative can have many themes. You may have thought of one that no one else has. I only wanted you to be able to explain your theme (defend) by point to specific examples from the text. Also, were there any themes in The Sun Also Rises in common with any of the short stories we have read thus far?

The music I played in the background was George Gershwin's "An American in Paris" from 1928.

After the writing prompt, we moved into our weekly in-class quiz. Since this meeting had to cover the material from two class meetings (which equal six class meetings in the regular 3-meeting per week world), our quiz was longer. Essentially, you answered four questions instead of the normal two. In any event, it seems that most of you aced it. If you were absent and want to see the questions, here they are (remember, I am collecting all questions and reproducing them in the coursework section of J-Web):

1. The Sun Also Rises takes place in the early 1920s in what countries?
(A) England and France
(B) England and Spain
(C) France and Spain

2. What is Brett’s title?
(A) Lady
(B) Duchess
(C) Countess

3. Jake asserts that “Nobody ever lives their life all the way except...”
(A) journalists
(B) expatriates
(C) bullfighters

4. What condition does Jake most likely have?
(A) Schizophrenia
(B) Impotence
(C) Syphilis

5. What distinguishes “Robert” from Jake, Brett, Count Mippipopolous, and Mike?
(A) He is an alcoholic.
(B) He is an American.
(C) He is not a war veteran.

6. Who is Count Mippipopolous?
(A) A man Jake wounded during the war
(B) A bullfighting expert
(C) A wealthy Greek expatriate living in Paris

7. Jake often feels like crying
(A) when he’s with Brett
(B) when he hears stories about the war
(C) at night

8. What does Jake dislike about the men Brett dances with at the club?
(A) They are rude to him
(B) They are homosexual
(C) They treat Brett disrespectfully

9. Why do Jake and his friend Bill travel to Burguete?
(A) To fish
(B) To work on a story
(C) To drink

10. What does Jake say to Brett at the end of the novel?
(A) “Things have a funny way of working out”
(B) “Isn’t it pretty to think so?”
(C) “No, of course I didn’t invite him!”

11. Count Mippipopolous espouses the philosophy that life
(A) is a series of unrelated and meaningless events
(B) is a succession of necessary, character-building trials
(C) is made up of many pleasures that are meant to be enjoyed

12. In this novel, what is an “aficionado”?
(A) Someone who drinks too much absinthe
(B) Someone who has passion for bull-fighting
(C) Someone who hires prostitutes

13. Which character gets sick at the bullfights?
(A) Jake
(B) Robert
(C) Brett

14. What do most people drink at the fiesta?
(A) Wine
(B) Absinthe
(C) Brandy

15. The two telegrams that Jake receives from Brett are essentially
(A) pleas for him to help her
(B) reports of Robert’s unbalanced behavior
(C) Promises that she will soon return to him

16. At the beginning of the novel, Hemingway quotes someone who coined the phrase, “a lost generation” Who?
(A) F. Scott Fitzgerald
(B) Gertrude Stein
(C) Mark Twain

Next, we recapped what we covered in our last meeting:

(1) We looked at various theories of literary criticism, the “tools” for discussing it.

(2) You had some practice applying theory to the five short stories we’ve read thus far.

(3) We discussed the concepts of “irony,” “dualisms,” “symbolism,” “(external parallelism) allusion,” and “internal parallel imagery.”

(4) We applied those concepts to Langston Hughes’s “On the Road” in a group activity.

(5) On the English-blog, you wrote about Langston Hughes’s “On the Road” and the idea of journey as a metaphor

Then, we did a chapter by chapter analysis of Hemingway's The Sun Also Rises where each student was assigned their own chapter. After a few minutes of independent research, you reported each character than appeared in your chapter, the geographical setting(s), and the movement of the story/plot developments. As a class, we decided which characters were major and which characters were minor based on the class-agreed-upon definition: "A character for whom the story would be drastically altered without constitutes a major character."

During the break, I asked you to pick up your quizzes from the previous meetings and to sign up for a minor character to discuss for your reading response homework assignment. I told you that I had put up some details about the grading of the quizzes on J-Web in the forums section. The film clips I played during the break were from the 1957 film adaptation of The Sun Also Rises with performances by Tyrone Power, Eva Gardner, and Eroll Flynn.

After the break, I made the announcement that your meeting absences are recorded on J-Web but you can begin to watch your coursework scores on turnitin.com. Please be sure that you are submitting your reading responses to both the English-blog AND to Turnitin.com by the deadline to receive credit. In a few cases, some of you only submitted to one place so you will find that you have a zero recorded for that assignment.

Our second activity involved pairwork about the following concepts/questions:

Formalist Dissections

1. From what perspective/point-of-view is the narrative told? Who is the narrator? Is the narrator the same person as the author? Why or why not? Also, is the narrator a “reliable narrator”? That is, is the narrator telling the reader “everything” or is the narrator “holding back”? Do we only get his “take” on the other characters or do we get to look inside their heads?

Character Discussions

2. Who is the antagonist of this story? How does the antagonist act as a “foil” for the antagonist? Identify both and be prepared to discuss the connection between the two.

3. Discuss the binary of realism versus idealism or romanticism. Which characters are “realists” and which characters are idealists/romantics? Explain why and provide evidence from the text.

4. Discuss the characterization of Lady Brett Ashley. Is she a sympathetic character? Is she a positive female role model? Does she treat her male friends cruelly? Most of all, is she a believable character?

5. Describe Robert Cohn’s characterization. Why is Robert verbally abused so often in the novel? Why does Mike attack Robert but not Jake, whom Brett actually loves? Why does Robert accept so much abuse?

Theme: The War

6. Compare Jake and Robert. How does the fact that Jake went to war and Robert did not make them different from each other? What qualities do they share with the rest of their acquaintances? Is it safe to call them both outsiders? Why or why not?

7. It has been said that alcoholism destroys more than just the individual who is the alcoholic. Do you know what is meant by this? Substitute the word “war” for alcoholism. How does “war” destroy the lives even of those not on the battlefield. Then, analyze The Sun Also Rises in the context of World War I. How does the experience of war shape the novel’s characters and their behavior? Examine the differences between the veterans, such as Jake and Bill, and the nonveterans, such as Robert and Romero. You may mention other veterans/non-veterans

Other Themes

8. Discuss the problem of communication in the novel. Why is it so difficult for the characters to speak frankly and honestly? In what circumstances is it possible for them to speak openly? Are there any characters who say exactly what is on their mind? If so, how are these characters similar to each other?

9. Stein called Hemingway and the others who had moved to Paris in the 1920s “a lost generation.” First, explain the lifestyle of the "lost generation" living in Paris as described in the novel. Second, taking what you now know about symbolism and allusion, decide if you think the characters of A Sun Also Rises are “lost.” If so, in what sense (both literal and/or symbolic)? Discuss.

10. Discuss the role of “impotence” in the story. Where does it pop up in the story in both the literal sense and the symbolic sense. What does it mean for someone to be impotent? Why is it an important theme?

11. Antisemitism plays a big role in this story. Remember, this is BEFORE WWII. These are, for the most part, not German, French, or Spanish characters. These are Americans living overseas. Find as many places as you can where Jewishness plays a role in the character’s discussions and explain why characters exhibit anti-Semitic language or thoughts. Why is this happening, or, why is this important to the story? Are there any other hateful/ignorant comments made about other ethnic groups in the story?

The first part of your homework assignment is to begin reading our next novel, Johnny Got His Gun by Dalton Trumbo. On March 5th, our next meeting, we will discuss the first half of the novel, so read chapters 1 through 10 (there are 20 chapters).

The second part of your homework assignment is to do a reading response. Some of you thought that I would be requiring a hardcopy. This isn't so. Your previous assignments have also been reading responses. Like the others, they are due in digital form on both Turnitin.com AND here, the English-blog in the comment box below.

Your response should focus on a “minor character” of your choice (pre-selected from the sign-up sheet) from The Sun Also Rises. (If you were absent and still want to do the assignment, see which ones are still available below). This is, again, an exercise in research within the text. Your assignment is to find every mention of this character in the text. You should write a few paragraphs explaining who this character is, was he/she present in the story or only mentioned? Did he/she have a speaking role? In what chapter(s) was he/she mentioned? Tell me as much as you can about this character, why he/she is important and what role he/she plays in the narrative—i.e. what is his/her connection to the other characters, the setting, and context. You should use specific page numbers from the text in your response to refer to your character. Here is the list:

_Sam_________________1. Frances Clyne
_Christy______________2. Count Mippipopolous
_Shantavia____________3. Georgette Hobin
_Melissa______________4. Harvey Stone
_Tom_________________5. Montoya
_Amanda______________6. Edna
_Hallie________________7. Harris (or Wilson-Harris)
_Michelle______________8. Belmonte
_Natasha______________9. Spider Kelly
_Candice_____________10. Cohn’s first wife
_Jodi________________11. Henry Braddocks
_Robert______________12. Mrs. Braddocks
_Brenton_____________13. Robert Prentiss
_Chris K.____________14. Lett and Zizi
_Erin________________15. Woolsey and Krum
_(still available)_______16. Madame Duzinell
_Chera_______________17. The Basque peasants—The men on the bus.
_(still available)_______18. Marcial Lalander
_Ryenn_______________19. Lord Ashley (the husband of Lady Ashley)
_Heather_____________20. Vicente Girones—The man killed.
_(still available)_______21. BOOKS—Jake reads quite a few books in this story. Name each book and the author. What does Jake or the other characters say about the books he reads? Be sure to provide the chapter and page numbers that they appear. You may need to google the books’ titles to find out the full names of the authors.
_Vivian______________22. CITIES—The characters of The Sun Also Rises mention and go to quite a number of cities. Name each city and country the city is in, in the order that they appear in the narrative. Does each country have its own “personality” according to the way they are presented by Hemingway? If so, what? Be sure to provide the chapters and the page numbers that each city appears. You may need to google the cities to find out what country they are in if you can’t deduct from the text.
_Theresa_____________23. ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES—There are several types of spirits drunk by the characters of The Sun Also Rises. Mention each kind and the location that they are mentioned (city and country) in the order that they appear. Be sure to explain what the drink is (i.e. if it is a cocktail, mention that, explain what it is and any details, if given), who is drinking it, even if it is non-speaking characters, and what chapter and page number this information appears. You may need to google the different types of liquor in order to better explain what it actually is (for example, what is “Madeira”?)

To see how other students in my courses have handled their discussions of minor characters, please see the link HERE to the minor characters of Watership Down.

http://www.english-blog.com/archives/2007/02/formal_reading_response_1_an_analysis_of_minor_characters_in_watership_down.php#more

Looking foward to reading your responses. Great job on the first two! I will provide feedback for those who get their responses in early (not the day of class), or for those who did not follow instructions. If you didn't get feedback, it doesn't mean your response isn't acceptable--it just means you probably submitted it too close to class time to get feedback from me.

See you next week,

Lee Hobbs

*NOTE: As with all reading responses submitted to the English-Blog for EL 267, you must first submit the response to the proper space on www.turnitin.com (the date for which it was assigned). To get credit, the response must be present in both places by the deadline. Submissions to only one will not receive credit, so beware!

Posted by lhobbs at February 27, 2008 09:36 AM

Readers' Comments:

The character of Wilson-Harris first appears on page 130 of Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises and leaves again by page 135. Although Harris is considered a minor character because of the short space he occupies in the story, Hemingway uses Harris to depict the deep camaraderie between ex-soldiers.
One of the first clues to this deep link between ex-soldiers is that, although Harris is an Englishman, Bill and Jake both get along with him very well (130). Later, at the fiesta, Bill seems to have a problem with English people and even calls them “Damned English swine” (192) but his shared was experience with Harris allows him to instantly put aside his prejudice in the face of their shared experience. He refers to Harris as “good old Harris” (134) even though they’ve only known each other a few days, suggesting that the war experience creates a bond that goes beyond friendship. Since Harris doesn’t mention being in the war until the last evening with Jake and Bill (134) it’s possible that Hemingway is suggesting that the understanding between ex-soldiers of WWI is so strong that they can tell another soldier without ever being told.
Even though they barely know each other and Bill and Jake don’t even learn that Harris is really called “Wilson Harris” until several days after they first meet (134) the three take to each other and form a strong friendship right away. It seems very important to all of them that they managed to meet up and feel that connection to each other and the war. Bill and Jake talk for several lines about how nice Harris was and how much they wish he would have come along (135) and Harris repeatedly states how much it means to him to meet them, and even gives them each a gift of several fishing flies (134-135). This only seems to emphasize how much each was affected by the war and how much importance and how much they miss the bond of camaraderie between soldiers.
While these few pages don’t seem extremely important on the surface, they serve as a way to emphasize Cohn’s position as the outsider later on. Having never been in a war, Cohn has no bond with Jake and Bill. It’s possible that the animosity Bill shows toward Cohn and the secret hate Jake has toward him might stem, at least in part, from the fact that Jake and Bill don’t feel they can connect with him. Cohn can’t satisfy their desire to feel a bond of camaraderie, and they hate him for it.

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Comments from your instructor:

An interesting exploration of this elusive character and his relationship with the others. It is appreciated!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: HallieG at February 28, 2008 07:02 PM

Turnitin.com / English-Blog #3

The minor character I choose to write about is Marcial Lalanda. He was described as a matador. A matador is a bullfighter in a bullfight that passes the bull with a muleta and then kills it with a sword. Marcial Lalanda is a bullfighter that is in the arena with Pedro Romero and one other man. All three together perform at the fiesta. Although, Lalanda is presented and mentioned he does not have a speaking part, only an acting part.
He is first introduced on page 175, when Montoya and Jake are discussing the message pertaining to Pedro Romero and Marcial Lalanda having coffee with them. Montoya explains that Marcial has been in San Sebastian all day and that he doesn’t think they will be back tonight. Chapter XVIII on page 216; was written about Romero and Marcial and Belmonte (another bullfighter) in action fighting the bull.
Hemingway writes about Lalanda as a smoker who is in competition with Belmonte (according to page 219, Belmonte has returned from his retirement to compete with the young and talented Romero; he knew competition with Lalanda was gained in advanced, though Romero was a great bullfighter who made Belmonte look terrible).
Marcial Lalanda is not a very important character, he is basically a character that is presented to the protagonist for entertainment. The connection to the other characters is that Lalanda is partners with Romero who turns out to be interested in Brett (Jake’s love).

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Comments from your instructor:

A good engagement with the text. Keep this up!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: A. Farabaugh at February 29, 2008 04:28 PM

Blog Entry 3
Minor Character Analysis in “The Sun Also Rises” by Ernest Hemingway
Robert Cohn, the general annoyance throughout the story, has many loves in his life. The novel actually opens with the general back-story of Robert Cohn, his Jewish background and his years at Princeton as a boxer. Robert’s first wife appears in this chapter one and is described as “the first girl who was nice to him” (12). She is only mentioned in Jake’s description of Robert on that one page in chapter one, and therefore is never physically present in the story. Robert’s first wife does not even have a speaking role, she is that minor of a character.
Jake goes on to describe her as the mother of Robert’s three children and describes their marriage as being unhappy (12). He goes on to say that “just when he had made up his mind to leave his wife she left him and went off with a miniature- painter” (12). Jake described her leaving as a “very healthful shock” to Cohn (12). Robert’s first wife is a very insignificant character that is basically around to further illustrate the painful, unhappy life Robert had before he expatriated to France. She was also partially there to exemplify Robert’s unending bad luck streak with women.

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Comments from your instructor:

Hard to believe that anyone was actually this crazy over Cohn, huh? Nice work.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Candice S at March 1, 2008 06:56 PM

The Basque Peasants are only mentioned in one chapter of Hemingway’s, The Sun Also Rises (Chapter XI). In class we discussed that some aspects of this novel seem to be in there only to show what Hemingway knows. Initially, it seemed to me that the Basque peasants are a prime example of this. Although I certainly do not see them as major characters (the story could definitely take place without them), they really contribute to the overall atmosphere Hemingway is trying to create in the book.

Basque peasants inhabit a region shared by France and Spain in the Pyrenees Mountains. They are very friendly people who Jake and Bill meet on their bus ride to Burguete. They communicate with them as best they can, and they teach Jake and Bill how to drink from a wineskin. One of the men speaks English and they engage in a friendly conversation. Because they are a unique people, Hemingway’s including them not only shows that he has done his research and is knowledgeable in the area in which he is writing about, but it really provides an authentic feel to the atmosphere.

The Basque people are a kind of isolated group of people, and although they themselves are quite lively and interesting, they could be seen as a kind of “lost generation,” similar to that of Jake and Bill.

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Comments from your instructor:

A very important point you made about other "Lost Generations." I smell a potential paper topic.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Chera P at March 2, 2008 07:40 PM


Count Mippipopolous is my favorite character in “The Sun Also Rises” by Ernest Heminway. The Count is mentioned all throughout chapter four and chapter seven. The Count is introduced in the story in chapter four by another character ZiZi. The Count at once is attracted to Brett. We find out the most about the Count in chapter seven. The Count and Brett come to visit Jake. We find out between the drinking and conversation between Jake, Brett, and The Count that The Count is Greek and has been in many battles, seven wars and four revolutions. He shows his scars to Jake and Brett. We find out about the Count’s philosophy of life on page 67 when he says, “You see, Mr. Barnes, it is because I have lived very much that now I can enjoy everything so well.” Also on page 67, Brett asks the Count about his values and he responds saying that one of his values is love and that he is always in love.
The Count is important in the story because he represents a successful and rich character. He is wealthy and good looking and has everything that he could want, or at least this is how he is portrayed. He lives his life to the fullest and knows the right values to have in his life. This is what makes me like The Count so much. The Count plays an important role in the narrative because he FOILS Jake. Jake is everything opposite of The Count. He longs for Brett and is jealous of her lovers. He is very insecure about himself and is not wealthy. Also, Jake has been in a war, but he does not show off his scars that he brought back from it. Jakes scars are causing trouble in his life and are more serious than The Counts, while The Count has scars that he can show off and be proud of. Overall, The Count is a very loveable character who I believe everyone would want as a friend. He is important in the story because he shows a different type of man than those described in the story such as Jake and his friends, he is a FOIL character.


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Comments from your instructor:

He's one of my favorites too. Thanks!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: C. Bell at March 4, 2008 11:27 PM

Frances Clyne is only talked about in the first two chapters, and the reader finds out that she is Robert Cohn’s girlfriend. The book describes her as being Cohn’s rebound from a bad marriage (p.16). Frances also appears with Cohn in chapter three when Jake shows up with Georgette. Chapter three is where Frances has her first speaking lines in the book as she talks to Georgette asking her what she thinks of Paris. Later in the chapter Frances is dancing (p.26).

Frances is talked about in chapter five as Jake suggests that Cohn take her with him where he goes. She appears in chapter six; showing up at the Café Jake was at (p.44). She asks to speak with him. Leading him away she tells him how Cohn doesn’t want to marry her, and wants to leave her. She says the reason he wants to leave her is that he isn’t living his life enough. She talks about how she wasted two years on Cohn and how no one will marry her now. They end up walking back over to where Cohn is and Frances talks about how she is leaving for England, because Cohn is sending her there to stay with friends (p.56).

Frances continues her rant about how Cohn grew tired with her. As she talks, she acts like none of what she is saying is an issue, just normal gossip. After this chapter Frances is not really seen or heard of again. Frances is important as she shows Cohn’s experience with women is little to none as he is easily tired of her (p.58).

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Comments from your instructor:

See my comments for Candice's discussion of Cohn's ex-wife. Similar situation here. Good Job!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Samantha G. at March 4, 2008 11:53 PM

The minor character that I am focusing on from the book entitled, “The Sun Also Rises” by Ernest Hemingway is a man named Montoya. Montoya owned a hotel in Pamplona called Montoya Hotel Pamplona. He was introduced into the story mid way through the thirteenth chapter on page 135, where he meets Jake and Bill as they check into the Montoya hotel. He shook their hands and said “Your friends are here” (Hemingway 135). Jake stays at the Montoya hotel during every fiesta. Montoya is a bullfighting expert and sees the sport as sacred. Jake shows great interest in bullfighting and Montoya admires his enthusiasm about it. Montoya takes great interest in chapter fifteen in a young gifted bullfighter names Romero. On page 166, Montoya introduces Cohn and Jake to Romero.
Although Montoya only plays a small role in the book “The Sun Also Rises” in chapters thirteen, fifteen and sixteen, he does contribute some significance to the story and everyone seems to like him.

Thomas A.

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Comments from your instructor:

Thanks for that insight into Montoya. You're right, of course. It is debatable whether or not he is a minor or major character.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Thomas A. at March 5, 2008 01:16 AM

Woosley & Krum

Chapter five is the only appearance in “The Sun Also Rises” that Woosley & Krum. Woosley and Krum appear to be affiliated with Jacob Barnes through work. Woosley and Krum share a cab in chapter five and make small talk about playing tennis, (p 45). Woosley and Krum are not major character to this book and realistically if chapter five never happened the story would still be the same. I believe that Woosley and Krum support the reader’s view of Jacob. Everyone likes Jacob and gets along with Jacob, yet the only person Jacob opens up to in the story is the reader. Jacob makes small talk with everyone and everyone likes Jacob, he plays neutral through the entire book. Woosley and Krum just support that idea that Jacob is well liked and easy to get along with.
When Krum asks what Jacob did the previous night, after all the dramatics with Brett, Jacob replies to Krum like nothing out of the ordinary, “Oh, I’m over in the quarters,” (p44). The text also eludes that Woosley and Krum are business men. The reader knows this from the reaction of Woosley, “Englishmen always have Saturday off,” (p44). All in all these two characters are not important to the text’s plot, I feel that Woosley and Krum are reconfirming Jacob’s characters.

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Comments from your instructor:

Interesting names those chaps have, huh? Any significance, you think? Excellent Work!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Erin at March 5, 2008 08:13 AM

The characters in Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises travel freely over several countries and through many small towns and large cities. Some of the main characters travel to certain cities, a few, multiple times, while others meet up with them there; some cities are mentioned in which all main characters spend a great deal of time together. There are several cities mentioned, almost in passing such as Chicago, St. Louis, Cannes, Lourdes, and Biarritz that do not appear to affect the plot, so these are not discussed in detail. A couple of cities are discussed in multiple chapters, but are reference here only once.

While Princeton, New Jersey (Ch. 1) is mentioned briefly, it seems like an important factor in the shaping of one of the main charters. My thought is that, like Robert, Princeton is cold, stale, unaware, and a bit uptight, completely unlike Paris, France (Ch. 1). While Paris is full of life, vigor, and fun, Robert seems to carry his Princeton attitude along.

New York, New York (Ch. 2) is exciting and enticing, which is a world apart from the explored Paris, France. San Sebastian, Spain (Ch. 8) is mentioned almost with secrecy. The vacation spot holds a bit of romance and charm but nothing like that of Pamplona, Spain (Ch. 8).

Vienna, Austria (Ch. 8) is mentioned in a context of a trying situation, leading me to believe that is a tough and uncaring city. Budapest, Hungary (Ch. 8) on the other hand, is wonderful. Bayonne, France (Ch. 9) and Burguete, Spain (Ch. 9) seem like natural and relaxing parts of their respective countries that allow for drinking and the enjoyment of hobbies.

Pamplona, Spain, (Ch. 9) discussed a great deal toward the end of the novel, has excitement around every corner. The city has a fun flavor that excites every character. This is by far the most intense and enjoyable city in the book. While each may view the events that took place in the city differently, all of the characters seemed engrossed in everything Pamplona had to offer. The fiesta preparations made way for great celebration and an atmosphere of fun.

Other Spanish cities mentioned include, Ronda, Malaga, Madrid, Tafalla, Estella, and Sanguesa (Ch. 16). These briefly referenced cities likely exhibit machismo characteristics, based on the bull fighter(s) and bull runner who hailed from them.

All of the cities in which main characters spent any substantial amount of time were probably conducive to a relaxed behavior, as eating and drinking was abundant and relevant. Most characters were able to fit into the European lifestyle of laid-back living and enjoyed, even if temporarily, the ability to live this way.

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Comments from your instructor:

Great analysis! I wish I could take the class to all these places for some "real" experiential learning.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Vivian Lee C. at March 5, 2008 11:11 AM

Lady Brett Ashley is a very important character in the novel, “The Sun Also Rises.” Her character makes her entry in the third chapter and is included in every chapter throughout the rest of the book. Without her character the story would not happen. Lady Brett Ashley is ahead of her time. During the 1930s, she was seen as a different kind of woman. She did not fit the traditional role of a woman during that time. She was very independent. Lady Ashley went from male companion to male companion. She lived her life spontaneously. It seemed as though she was never satisfied. Lady Ashley was very charming. Whoever came in contact with her during the story instantly was attracted to her. Her character seemed to trigger the reaction of all of the other characters throughout the novel, causing the story to basically be based on her actions. Lady Ashley’s physical appearance was also not of the norm. She had short hair and was a tad more masculine than other women. Many men in the story referred to her as being beautiful. It is ironic that Lady Ashley loves being independent, but yet Jake remarks in the book that “she never wants to be alone.”

Lady Brett Ashley’s past is very significant on why she is so independent. She was previously married. The husband she had made her become submissive. She felt as though he was holding her down. Once he died, she never wanted to feel that way again. Lady Ashley did not want to be settled again. Throughout the book, there are many chances that she has to be with one man. Mike is her fiancé, yet she runs around with Robert, Jake and Pedro. She instantly falls in love with Pedro Romero and he wants to marry her. He also wants her to conform to the traditional woman role. Lady Ashley refuses.

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Comments from your instructor:

Ryenn, you were supposed to write on "LORD" Ashley, Lady Ashley's original husband, not on her (Brett is obviously a major character--that's the tip-off with regards to this assignment)

Good discussion of her, we'll keep it, but try again on "Lord" Ashley to get credit for the assignment! Be SURE you are using page numbers to support your claim as your peers are doing.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Ryenn Micaletti at March 5, 2008 12:27 PM

RD
Mrs. Braddocks, wife of Mr. Braddocks, is a friend of Cohn’s. Not a close friend, but they have met on several occasions. Mrs. Braddocks, along with Mr. Braddocks, go dancing with Jake and Georgette and the rest of the group that are discussed in the book. Although Mrs. Braddocks isnt a major character in the book, she along with her husband, do play a specific role at the dance by keeping the awkward peace among the group due to the dicey situation with Jake and Georgette, his prostitute for the evening. Also Mrs. Braddocks aided in keeping the awkwardness of Jake’s lies dubbed down through polite actions and keeping sociable with the group of friends as well as Jake at the dance. Mrs. Braddocks’ first worthwhile encounter, that I had found significant supporting Georgettes dry personality and Mrs. Braddocks’ bubbly personality, was when they had all met for coffee the morning before they met up later for the dance. The coffee scene opens up with Jake introducing Georgette to Mr. and Mrs. Braddocks as his fiancee Georgette LeBlanc. After some time, Mrs. Braddocks gets the sarcastic joke after Georgette tells her that her real last name is Hobin. Later that evening, the group meets up at the Bal, a small dance club. As the owner begins to play music, Lady Ashley, also known as Brett, comes into the dance club surrounded by five gentlemen. One of the gentlemen makes fun of Georgette and plays it off to dance with a prostitute. Jake gets upset by this and wants to fight the man dancing with Georgette, but instead heads off to a nearby bar for a drink. Upon Jake’s return, Mrs. Braddocks, assuming her great personality and role in the group, tries to break the tension and irritation of Jake by introducing him to Robert Prentiss. As the conversation continues, Jake is further irritated and storms off. It is Mrs. Braddocks and her bubbly personality that is constantly playing the “referee” in my mind, and tries to keep the peace by attempting to alleviate tension in her own way. She has this innocent, unknowing approach where she is unaware of certain things but has good intentions with all of her actions; she is almost naive in a sense.

Posted by: RD at March 5, 2008 01:12 PM

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“The Sun also Rises” by Ernest Hemingway Character Analysis
I choose the Lady Brett Ashley to write. At first I think she is a very bad and misogynist women compare with the protagonist Jake Barnes, a journalist and used to be a veteran of World War I. She is beautiful but she drinks heavily. And we can see though she loved Jake she still refused to commit the relationship with Jake because she feel that will make her can’t have sex anymore, because of Jake’s deformity. But when I finished the novel I changed my idea, even Brett has a lot of men who became infatuated with her, she is unwilling to commit fully with any of them such as Robert Cohn – a rich American writer and Pedro Romero – a beautiful, strong, sexy bullfighter. She doesn’t want to stay with Jake just because she know they are not going to have a happiness future. I think she is a poor lady because her old true lover died in World War I make her feel afraid to face the love.

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Comments from Instructor:

Three Things: You weren't signed up for Lady Ashley (see reproduction of list above). "Lady" Ashley wasn't on the list--"Lord" Ashley was, but Ryenn signed up for him. Lady Ashley wasn't a minor character--she was a major character. This assignment was about the minor characters. Try again before the deadline.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Yichuan Sun at March 5, 2008 02:36 PM

Chris King
The first of the two characters I chose was Lett. Lett first mentioned in Chapter 3 on page 28. He was the only guy mentioned out of the group of men at the bar. Lett was the tall dark person that Jake referred to when they Lett first appeared: “One of them saw Georgette and said: ‘I do declare. There is an actual harlot. I’m going to dance with her, Lett. You watch me.’ The tall dark one, called Lett, said: ‘Don’t you be rash.’ The wavy blonde one answered: ‘ Don’t you worry, dear.’ And with them was Brett.” (page 28). The final mention of Lett was on page 29. “Your fiancé is having great success,” Mrs. Braddocks looked out on the floor where Georgette was dancing in the arms of the tall dark one, called Lett. (page 29). Lett really held no importance in the story except to cause a little drama with Jake, the main character. Lett wasn’t portrayed to have a speaking part, rather, his buddy had the speaking part and Lett was the mentioned name because he was the person who danced with Georgette.
The second character I had was Zizi, who was first mentioned in Chapter 4 on page 36. Zizi’s entrance: “Oh Brett! Brett!” The little Greek portrait-painter, who called himself a duke, and whom everybody called Zizi, pushed up to her. “I got something fine to tell you.” “Hello, Zizi,” Brett said. Later on in the chapter, Jake mentioned Zizi while doing some finances in his checking book and reading a wedding invitation. Jake said: There was a crest on the announcement. Like Zizi the Greek duke. Zizi, like Lett, was not an important character. He had few lines to speak and really was only in the story to make it more dramatic.

Posted by: Chris King at March 5, 2008 02:58 PM

Ernest Hemmingway uses a multitude of characters that undertake various purposes in his novel, “The Sun Also Rises.” These characters can be categorized as either major characters or minor characters depending upon the significance they have to the story.
One of these minor characters is a gentleman by the name of Henry Braddocks. We are first introduced to Mr. Braddock’s character on page 13, where Jake Barnes says; “…Robert Cohn had two friends. Braddocks and myself. Braddocks was his literary friend.” Through this introduction, the reader thinks that if Robert Cohn is the major character of the story, and only has two friends, then both friends should be intricate parts of the story. However, we soon find out that “The Sun Also Rises” is not a novel about Robert Cohn as the first chapter leads you to believe, it is actually about Jake Barnes. Jake and Mr. Braddocks are not friends, which explains why Mr. Braddocks isn’t a major character. The only other thing that the reader can deduct from this first mentioning of Mr. Braddocks is that he knows Robert Cohn because Robert is a writer. His description of being Robert’s “literary” friend could mean that they are only friends when writing is concerned.
Mr. Braddocks isn’t mentioned in the story again until page 25, when Jacob Barnes and Georgette Hobin end up at the same restaurant as Mr. Braddocks, his wife, Robert Cohn and his girlfriend, and various others are at. Mr. Braddocks invites Jacob into the room, and then invites him to the dance that they have revived. This tells the reader that Mr. Braddocks may also be interested in the arts, as well as literature. Or that he is interested in the alcohol that will surely be present at the dance. Mr. Braddocks then invites Jacob and his friend into the other room to join them at their table for coffee.
On page 26, Jacob and Georgette join the others, and after introductions, the reader learns that Mr. Braddocks knows Georgette. This could be a signal from Hemingway to the reader re-affirming the fact that Georgette is a harlot, and Mr. Braddocks could know this fact first hand. The reader also learns that Mr. Braddock’s first name is Henry, when Mrs. Braddocks calls down the table to him. The fact that we learn Mr. Braddock’s first name is a testament that he is more important of a character than Mrs. Braddocks, whose first name is never revealed.
The group arrives at the dance club the Braddocks have restored on page 27. It is here that Braddocks states “I wish people would come earlier.” This statement can be taken as either Braddocks is bored, and wishes that there were more people or around, or that perhaps Braddocks invested money in this club, and in order for it to make money, needs more proprietors.
The last the reader sees of Henry Braddocks is on page 36, when Jacob runs into he and his wife at Café Select. Mr. Braddocks tells Jacob that Georgette got into a scrum at the bar earlier, and that someone eventually took her home. He then asks Jacob to stay for a drink, but Jacob declines. He asks Mr. Braddocks if he’s seen Robert. Mr. Braddock’s wife tells Jacob that he went home with Frances, and Mr. Braddocks adds, “poor chap-looks awfully down.” However, not with much concern for his friend. Which also leads the reader to wonder once again if Mr. Braddocks and Robert Cohn are actually friends, or if they have a relationship based on convenience.

Posted by: Jodi S. at March 5, 2008 03:17 PM

Belmonte is not a main character in Ernest Hemingway’s “The Sun Also Rises.” He is a bullfighter that fights on the same day as Pedro Romero. Belmonte used to be a great bullfighter. However, when he came out of retirement to fight with Romero, he could not live up to the legends that grew around him. He is very bitter about this and dejected. Belmonte seems to in a way symbolize the entire Lost Generation because he feels out of place and almost purposeless in his later adult life.
Belmonte is not even mentioned in the book until the middle of chapter eighteen. He is mentioned during a bullfight that he was in against Romero. Belmonte came out of retirement just to fight against Romero. He soon finds out that he is not nearly as good at bullfighting as he used to be. The fight with Belmonte starts on page 216 and lasts until page 220. Belmonte plays a very minor role in the story. If you take out the scene with Belmonte completely, the story would still go on. Belmonte did not have a speaking role at all in the story. Jake just talked about Belmonte’s bullfight.
I think Belmonte is in the story to show how good Romero really is. It helps to show that people lose some of their abilities with age. Belmonte almost seems to be a foil for Jake because Belmonte is now living in Romero’s shadow, like Jake is with Romero.

Posted by: Michelle E. at March 5, 2008 03:44 PM

The character of Vicente Girones is an example of symbolism used by Ernest Hemingway in his 1926 novel, The Sun Also Rises. Vicente is visiting Pamplona to celebrate the fiesta. We are first introduced to him in chapter seventeen, the only chapter he appears in, when he is gored in the back while running with the bulls (200). Although his part is a small one, Vicente represents a transformation that occurs with one of the major characters, Robert Cohn.
Vicente is from a small town near Tafalla, located in Spain. He is twenty-eight years old, owns a farm and is married with two children (202). Symbolically, Vicente represents the traditional prewar ideals that represented masculinity. Although he is young, he has achieved many things, namely, a family and property. He leads a focused, purposeful life.
Through the use of foreshadowing, Hemingway relates the story of Vicente just prior to our learning of the breakdown of Robert Cohn. Robert has always been singled out from the crowd by his ethnicity, his non-veteran status, but most importantly, the fact that he embodied the old-fashioned way of living. He was unaffected by the war in that sense. Not fighting had caused him to still cling to those ideals, and everyone else in the group was always frustrated with him for doing this.
In chapter seventeen, there is a confrontation between Cohn and Jake. They begin fighting and Cohn strikes Jake, knocking him out (195). The man who never really enjoyed boxing is brought to the edge of madness by his obsession with Brett. His set of ideals is crumbling. He seeks out Brett and Romero. After an ugly fight between himself and the bullfighter, he is brought to his lowest point. After begging Romero to shake hands with him, an old-fashioned ideal in itself, Romero refuses and instead sneaks in one last hit, taking advantage of Cohn’s vulnerability (205-06).
The death of Vicente Girones symbolizes the passing away of the traditional prewar values. In his classic style of subtle writing, Hemingway then builds on this symbolism with the breakdown of Cohn and his eventual exile from Pamplona.


Hemingway, Ernest. The Sun Also Rises. New York: Scribner, 2006.

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Comments from Instructor:

Thanks for your response. I am particularly interested in your theory that "Vicente represents the traditional prewar ideals that represented masculinity." This sounds fascinating. What are "the traditional prewar ideals" you are referring to? What are the postwar ideals that make them different from the prewar?

I appreciate your input!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Heather S. at March 5, 2008 03:45 PM

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The minor character that I chose to focus on was Marcial Lalander. He is first intorduced in the sixteenth chapter of Hemingway’s “The Sun Also Rises”. He is the friend and colleague of Pedro Romero. He and Pedro Romero are bull fighters in an arena. I believe that he is of Mexican of Latino decent because in Montoya and Jake constantly mention Spain while speaking of Romero and Lalander. After he is briefly mentioned in the sixteenth chapter, he is mentioned again on page 216. He does not speak but just stands there and smokes a cigarette. I do not think that there is a major connection between Lalander and Jake. He is more like a friend of Romero. He is considered to be a minor character because he was only mentioned twice and has no speaking role what so ever.

Posted by: Shayla Sorrells at March 5, 2008 04:05 PM

The character Edna, in the Sun Also Rises, is a very minor character. She is introduced in chapter 17 as Bill’s friend. She spends time with Bill and Mike throughout this chapter, as she talks about being thrown out of the fiesta of San Fermin in Pamplona. They drank too much and were making a scene (192). Edna stayed with the men that night because she was afraid they would pass out (199).
This character was important because she was used by Mike in attempts to make Brett jealous. However, Brett was no where to be found because she was off with Romero (191). Even when Brett found out that Edna was spending time with Mike, she did not seem to mind. So therefore, Edna did not make Brett jealous.

Amanda S.

Posted by: Amanda S. at March 5, 2008 04:26 PM

Lord Ashley is only hardly mentioned throughout the novel. Lord Ashley is Lady Brett Ashley’s husband. Hemingway goes into brief detail about their relationship in chapter XVII. Lady Brett was unhappily married to him. He controlled her. Lord Ashley was always threatening to murder her. He also forced he also forced her to sleep on the floor. Lord Ashley always slept with a loaded revolver next to him, which Lady Brett would unload every night.

I feel that he is very important to this novel, even though he is not really present. Lady Brett Ashley is known for her independence and advanced beliefs she portrays in the story. I feel that the reason that she is so independent, spontaneous, and doesn’t want to settle down is because of her marriage to Lord Ashley. While being married to him she was Lady Ashley was submissive and played the traditional woman’s role as a wife. When he died, she broke out of the submissive role and became very independent. Her independence is what triggers the other characters actions throughout the book. Lady Ashley’s independence is what makes the story. Lord Ashley’s death prompted her to being so independent. Without Lord Ashley’s role as a husband, there would be no charismatic, spontaneous Lady Ashley.


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Comments from Instructor:

Now you've got the right character. But, you didn't include the page numbers from where the information about your character is located.

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Ryenn Micaletti at March 5, 2008 04:31 PM

Harvey Stone is a friend of Jake, who, to put it politely, is a drunk. The reader is introduced to Stone in Chapter 6, where he is found by Jake, drinking at the café Select. Stone is out of money and hasn’t eaten in days, so Jake gives him a hundred dollars to help him. While the two men are talking Robert Cohn comes in and Stone says, “Hello, Robert. I was just telling Jake here that you’re a moron.” Cohn and Stone have a little back-and-forth and it is clear that Cohn is not on Stone’s Christmas card list.
This is the only chapter in which Stone appears, but I think he is very symbolic and important. During this time period, Jake and his friends, including Harvey Stone, would have been apart of ‘The Lost Generation’. I think that Stone’s character is a symbol of that. He is all alone, unhappy and has nothing but booze in the country he is supposed to be enjoying. Even though he is in Paris to have a grand time, he is constantly drunk and not happy with his life. In a sense, even though Jake found him at the café Select, Harvey Stone was lost; and probably still is today.

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Comments from Instructor:

Where are your page numbers? See Theresa's entry below for what I was looking for

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: Melissa L. at March 5, 2008 04:41 PM

T. Wineland
American Literature 1915-Present
Professor Hobbs
March 5, 2008

Alcoholic Beverages Mentioned in “The Sun Also Rises,” by Ernest Hemingway

Besides the mention of wine (24-25, 64, 66, 68, 91, 93-94, 100, 104, 109, 111, 116, 121, 126, 133, 240), beer (27-28, 45, 97, 203, 205-211, 225), champagne (36, 62-63, 65-66, 68) and liqueur (27), in general terms, “The Sun Also Rises,” by Ernest Hemingway, mentions a slew of alcoholic beverages consumed throughout the story. Many of the characters enjoy an occasional brandy as well as fines (14, 82, 241) or fine a (28), which is a French liqueur like brandy. In addition to straight brandy (68, 80), the characters also drink brandy and soda (29, 40-41), amontillado brandy (186), and jerez (157). Cognac (29, 180, 191, 240) which is also a form of brandy, named after a town in France, is another beverage of choice throughout the novel. Another brandy based liqueur mentioned in the novel is fundador (182, 186, 194, 208, 232), which means “founder” in Spanish. It is called this because it is the first brand to be marketed as a “Brandy de Jerez” in 1874.

Red wine (83, 177) is specifically mentioned, as well as port (50) and porto (51) which is a sweet fortified wine from the Douro Valley in northern provinces of Portugal and is typically served as a dessert wine. Chablis (92-93) is wine named after a region in the wine district of Burgundy, France. The grapevines around the town of Chablis are almost all Chardonnay, making a dry white wine renowned for the purity of its aroma and taste. The characters drink vieux marc (237) which has an intense aroma of walnuts, vanilla and liquorice. In Spain the characters enjoy rioja alta (249, 250) and anis del mono (162). A high quality wine mentioned is chateau margaux (236), which is one of the most expensive wines in the world.

There are many beverages mentioned that are not particularly familiar ones, such as pernod (22-23, 79, 81). As described in the novel (23), pernod is a greenish imitation absinthe. When you add water it turns milky. It tastes like licorice and it has a good uplift, but it drops you just as far. Absinthe (170, 225-227) is a distilled, highly alcoholic drink which contains a wide array of botanical extracts. Another herb flavored liqueur in France which can be either yellow or green in color is known as izarra (236), which means “star.”

Other alcoholic beverages mentioned are aguardiente (112) which is made from sugar cane and distilled to a grade of alcohol between 50-80%, which is why it is also known as “firewater.” Jake enjoys a Jack Rose with George the barman (48) in Hotel Crillon. He also drinks a Jack Rose (79) later on in the novel. It is a classic cocktail which was popular in the 1920’s and 1930”s. It is a mixture of applejack, grenadine and lemon or lime juice. In Paris, Jake and Robert have an aperitif (21) in Café Napolitain. This is an alcoholic drink enjoyed as an appetizer before a large meal and is usually served with olives or crackers.

The characters are also known to drink martinis (247-249), sherry (157), whiskey and soda (19, 80, 232-233, 239) and a drink called hot rum punch (116). Hot rum punch is a mixture of lemon juice, rum, apple cider, sugar and spice, which is drank nice and hot.

There is almost always a drink is someone’s hand throughout this novel and many of the beverages have originated in France and Spain. Some of the drinks are common place and others are quite different; however, all of the drinks seem to be enjoyed by the characters throughout the novel, except maybe the izarra which Jake sends back to the waiter.

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Comments from Instructor:

Good work-over and beyond what I expected!

~Lee Hobbs

Posted by: T Wineland at March 5, 2008 05:13 PM

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Posted by: Lee Hobbs at March 5, 2008 11:30 PM

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